Jay Shetty & Ben Greenfield Talk Blue Zones, Spiritual Fitness & More


I have a life that many people may covet.

But I’ve got (what may be shocking) news for you. I’m not necessarily doing exactly what I think I was meant to do for the rest of my life.

Now, that doesn’t mean that I’m not grateful for the journey I’ve taken thus far. But what served me earlier in my career is no longer fulfilling. I have been beating up my body for 20 years in the name of “fitness,” but as I near my 40th birthday, I am looking to realize and share many redefined thoughts on optimal bodily and spiritual fitness.

Recently, I had the chance to discuss this shift—along with many other topics including longevity, my love for water, and habit change—with my friend Jay Shetty.

Jay Shetty is a highly influential content producer. He’s the host of one of the top podcasts in the world, On Purpose with Jay Shetty, the New York Times bestselling author of the book Think Like A Monk, and a recipient of the Forbes “30 Under 30” recognition. Jay has taught more than 2 million students worldwide on success, habits, and purpose through his free online course Genius.

Jay Shetty has a fascinating story. At age 21, he heard a monk speak and it changed his life. For the next three years, he went back and forth regularly between working for a large financial organization and also living as a monk in India. At the end of that time, Jay chose the life of a monk, rising daily at 4 a.m., meditating for 4-8 hours, studying timeless wisdom, and serving local communities. When Jay did eventually leave his life as a monk, he found that he was able to take with him a changed perspective on gratitude, realizing that it boosted his immune system, his mood, and his quality of sleep. Mastering his mind helped Jay manage negativity and overcome overthinking in addition to promoting calm. Discipline gave him the means to make an impact, and meditation allowed Jay clarity, confidence, and focus. Jay says he owes everything to the lessons he learned as a monk.

The last time I hung out with Jay Shetty, we were eating incredible five-star Sardinian food at the transformational event Mindvalley University. I was sitting with the founder and CEO of Mindvalley, Vishen Lakhiani, who is also an entrepreneur, author, and motivational speaker. Vishen introduced me to Jay and we hit it off right away.

Now, three years later, Jay Shetty and I met up on the other side of the world when I had a chance to swing by his place down in LA. We had a fantastic chat about physical, emotional, and mental presence, fitness, sleep, water, the disentanglement of bodily and spiritual fitness, and much more.

In this discussion with Jay Shetty, you’ll discover:

-What Jay Shetty and Ben say when they catch up on time shared together, Blue Zones, and more…04:25

-Ben’s confession of his love for the water…12:15

-Sleep hygiene, light discipline, and mindfulness of circadian rhythms…18:05

-Making your bed a sanctuary and optimizing sleep…37:25

-That time in the distant past that Ben didn’t feel Boundless…47:35

  • Education was centered on classical education (Latin, reading the classics, etc.)
  • Tennis was the first exposure to physical activity, learning about the body
  • Beyond Training by Ben Greenfield
  • Boundless by Ben Greenfield
  • “Healthy on the outside, dying on the inside”
  • There’s a yearning in our soul for something beyond earthly pleasure
  • “God-shaped hole” in our hearts – Blaise Pascal
  • Devices and biohacks are the means by which we better achieve our purpose in life

-How our health affects our quality of life, for better or worse…1:01:34

  • The best businesses are built on making an impact, and the money will follow
  • We often neglect physical health while pursuing spiritual or emotional health; we need all three in balance
  • Know your motives for exercise; to love others rather than look or feel a certain way

-Where we go wrong when it comes to changing habits…1:10:08

  • Understand why you’re doing a particular thing
  • Make things as accessible and convenient as possible
  • Stack or multitask biohacks and other tasks whenever possible

-Jay Shetty’s rapid-fire questions…1:16:42

  • The worst health advice Ben has ever received
  • The best health advice Ben has ever received or given
  • Ben’s current life purpose
  • The first thing to do in the morning, and the last thing to do before bed
  • What universal law Ben would ruthlessly enforce on humanity

-And much more!

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Resources mentioned in this episode:

– Jay Shetty:

– Podcasts And Articles:

  • My Favorite “Health Hack”, How To Get the Best Night Of Sleep Possible, And How I Took 17 Years Off My Biological Age, with Vishen Lakhiani.
  • The Giant Cold Thermogenesis Episode: Everything You Need To Know About Ice Baths, Cold Therapy, How Cold, How Long & Much More With Morozko Forge Cold Bath Experts!
  • The Best Biohack For Stress & Sleep (Simulates A Full Sleep Cycle In 20 Minutes While Blasting Away Stress & Giving You A Deep Meditative Experience), with Jim Poole.
  • How To Simulate A Full Sleep Cycle In 20 Minutes, The Best Stress Biohack That Exists, Vagus Nerve Stimulation & Much More!
  • Why Wild-Caught Fish Isn’t Necessarily Better, The Truth About Farmed Fish, How To Get Guilt-Free, Gourmet Seafood, Delicious DIY Sushi & Sashimi Recipes & Much More!
  • Sunlight Makes You Skinny & Blue Light Makes You Fat: 11 Ways To Biohack Light To Optimize Your Body & Brain.
  • Sabbath Ramblings: Who Am I?

– Books:

– Other Resources:

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